Pope Benedict XVI
By: Barbara
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Added: 04/19/2005 - 03:07 PM

Congratulations to all my German Catholic friends! Cool!

By: Annelie
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Added: 04/20/2005 - 02:53 AM

Hi. I´m not catholic, but I agree with you, Steffie, they should have chosen someone more liberal who listen to everybodys needs. There are so many people in this world which admire and listen to the Pope, he has, in my opinion, too much influence on ordinary people.

/Annelie
By: Steffie
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Added: 04/19/2005 - 05:07 PM

thanks Wink
we'll see if that vote is something to celebrate...i think he is too conservative...they should have chosen someone more progressive (especially in questions concerning the women's role in the catholic church that would have - eventually - been a step forward...but with ratzinger, we're stuck where we are...)
steffie

By: Steffie
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Added: 04/20/2005 - 03:44 AM

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they should have chosen someone more liberal



so i kept thinking about that, too...but in the end ARE THERE ANY LIBERAL PEOPLE in leading positions in the catholic church? i do not think so...so i guess we can be glad to have him for AT LEAST he is a rhetoric genious and great intellectual...

By: Annelie
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Added: 04/20/2005 - 04:22 AM

I´m sure there are someone more liberal, but they have never reached the leading positions, as you said. In a society like the catholic church the mayority have an old-fashioned thinking on, for example, womens role, and the other which are in another opinion never get the chance to bring up the problem. I´m not religious but I find it interesting how one man can affect so many people.
I don´t like it. Saw a documentary for a while ago about the Aids situation and about raped and pregnant children in catholic countries, terrifying!
By: GermanFan
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Added: 04/25/2005 - 02:39 PM

I'm neither catholic but I think as Benedict the XVI is 78 years old there will be in lates 10 years a new pope. I hope that than the next one will a more liberal in some things.
Except of in some of his views Jean Paul the second was a good pope.

Mfg
Britta

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By: Steffie
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Added: 04/26/2005 - 04:47 AM

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Except of in some of his views Jean Paul the second was a good pope



well, it is always easiert to say good things about dead people...but i agree with you that even though his thinking was VERY conservative in quite some points (especially sexuality) it fitted to what he lived and what the church says. so i like that he was consequent in what he said and acted like.
still, i think that there have to be reforms because even church cannot hide from the changes time brings.

By: jewel
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From: Germany
Added: 04/28/2005 - 10:15 AM

Hey!
Just dropped in here to read the latest mails when stumbling over this interesting thread! First of all, I'm not catholic, neither, noone seems to be it, in here, however I was quite exciting about the vote of the new Pope. So, I was lucky to watch the declaration of the new Pope live on TV and frankly, when sawing who it was, my first reaction was as well: "oh no, not him". But in fact, I think that before juging him, we should wait to look what he is going to do. And maybe, since he's know to be a conservative person, he might be the first to be able to do some liberal reforms. In any case, I think, that his aim that the main religions should start to discuss more with each other doesn't sound so bad.
Greetings, Johanna

p.s. by the way, Steffie, I received your little parcel last saturday...and you really know how to mortify someone with curisotiy, don't you? Roll Eyes But I'll resist! Frin

Les Misérables
By: Annelie
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Added: 04/28/2005 - 10:41 AM

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In any case, I think, that his aim that the main religions should start to discuss more with each other doesn't sound so bad.



Lets hope so, but I´ve heard that he is negative to ecumenical questions... He is certainly a man with power, and I really hope he will use it with sense. For example: If he informed everybody about the AIDS problem in a practical and reasonable way, many people would listen and get a positive attitude to use condoms. But that will never happen a s a the Pope is against contraceptives. AIDS is the Plague of today.

Lets hope the new Pope is a reasonable man.

Annelie
By: Steffie
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Added: 04/28/2005 - 12:35 PM

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I'm not catholic, neither, noone seems to be it, in here,



HEY, i am catholic! Frin for real!

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If he informed everybody about the AIDS problem in a practical and reasonable way, many people would listen and get a positive attitude to use condoms. But that will never happen a s a the Pope is against contraceptives. AIDS is the Plague of today.




that is one thing i meant when i mentioned the pope's conservative view on sexuality. on the one hand i find it impressive that in our time the church tries to stick with the old values and stuff (and actually if everybody would live that way we wouldn't have such problems as AIDS etc...) but on the other hand we're talking about humans here and knowing that they (well, "we") are (let's face it) the least trustworthy and self-controlled creatures i don't think there is any way to make them (us) live that way. so we all - INCLUDING THE POPE - have to deal with the problems (AIDS, teenage pregnancy, rape, abuse...) and shouldn't close our eyes and pretend not to see it and keep forbidding contraceptives etc... i don't see the reason why. people will not come to live that "ideal" the church "suggests"...so the situation NOW must be dealt with...so i hope the church will become more open in that respect...

By: Annelie
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Added: 04/29/2005 - 04:34 AM

Everybody have faith, in some way, different religions or like me; not religious but trying to be a good human and treat other as I want to be treated, to love and get loved, be a good mother and deserving to be called mum, respect people for who they are irrespective of sexual disposition or religion for getting respect for who I am. It´s easy to love and respect a s a that person isn´t violent and kill, raping kids and women, making war, telling lies and so on.... I´m not perfect, no one are, but if everybody were acting with sense and compassion this world would look different (in a better way), sense to se all the problems and compassion for all the people who are living with that problems. I have always watched the world in a scientistic view, we live to reproduce ourselves. We are a very intelligent animal with great knowledges and we are always developing faster kommunication and transportation, better medical eqipments and, unfortunately, more effective weapons. Weapons that can destroy towns in a few seconds.
Lets use our brilliant brains to make this world more comfortable for all of us and listen to the animal in us, the animal who want to eat, keep warm, love, reproduce and be just happy.

A big hug to all of you. You are all wonderful and I respect you Smile!
/Annelie
By: Steffie
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Added: 04/29/2005 - 05:37 AM

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Everybody have faith, in some way, different religions or like me; not religious but trying to be a good human and treat other as I want to be treated



that is a good point. i think religion or any kind of belief is really important - especially nowadays where people become more and more unhuman. though i was raised catholic i cannot say i am living the strict rules...and i don't think these rules are "natural" parts of that religion, but they were made by the institution of church. i consider myself more as a "pantheist", meaning i believe in nature, in the endless circle of giving and taking, birth and death etc. i see all the (technical) forms created by humans are actually copies of nature in some way...and in order to stay alive one must have respect for each other...speaking in the common and metaphorical sense.
i see very much your point, annelie and i think the way you think and try to live is actually the essential way.

By: KatarzynaKocot
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Added: 01/26/2011 - 09:44 PM

Hi everyone.
I also congratulate the selection of Pope Benedict XVI. It's great to have a pope from their own country. In Poland, for many people the word is associated with Pope John Paul II. I made a hand painting on white canvas, which is show below. Such a commemoration of Pope Pole.


 
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